Ignorance is Bliss, Government Unintended Consequences and the Federal Reserve System.

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Ignorance is Bliss, Government Unintended Consequences and the Federal Reserve System. 58% want a smaller government www.cnsnews.com

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x3n04ng3l May 24, 2010 at 1:16 pm

wow this guy is preity f’ing stupid and obviously does look beyound the borders of the good old U S of A….

AXESMI May 24, 2010 at 2:03 pm

@freeinallthings Power & greed corrupts governments. The more power you have, the more you want.

gravityboy79 May 24, 2010 at 2:54 pm

this dude is wrong…Free means i can take the cheapest way out.. Free means the more i have to control the more i am god. free means i can pay u less and charge u more.. Yeah free means you can bust you ass at work i and still not get enough to live because we are free to fire u and hire the next guy who will work for less… Free market means wars for more or the most that we can get…

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 3:13 pm

“people” don’t read the clauses “vaguely”. They ignore them altogether. The Fed is clearly unconstit. Read the gun amendment and you need to be in a Militia to own a gun. Does roe v. wade violate right to life? Did the Hoover dam violate the rights of the locals? The TVA? Integration clearly violated State’s rights. Would a balanced budget amendment violate the free will of the people to demand all those things the pork budget’s give to locals?

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 3:26 pm

It took a FBI tax case to get Capone years ago since local corruption let him walk on other cases. Underage computer porn. Several local arrests because of Fed intervention. Illegal selling of Mustangs for meat. Refusal of officials in my WAY northern town to to stop illegal immigrant workers in our local factories when it’s a Known that they are there. Just working without a permit violates our LOCAL laws. NONE of this w=could have been anticipated and WASN’T by the constit.

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 4:08 pm

The thing about “what the builders wanted it kind of preposterous. No nuclear weapons, no international terrorism, no computers that centralize personal data. It took a special court order to invoke hot pursuit laws across COUNTY lines and later STATE ones so escaping criminals could be pursued and captured. Only centralized FBI work captured several serial killers since the locals STILL don’t talk to each other over borders.

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 5:03 pm

This talk is as old as the country: federalist or confederation. They didn’t need to raise an army so we got a gun amendment. Since they’ve raised an army the gun amendment is more an appendix than a vital organ, but it’s a RIGHT. Arizona needs all the water it can get, Is it MI’s fright to keep it from the by damming every river that flows from the Great lake and setting up and Alaskan Pipeline of water? Could the source state of the Mississippi dam it? Not constitutionally covered.

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 5:53 pm

Who corrupts the government? Are you saying it is corrupt in nature, in which case, we need anarchy. I’m saying it is corrupted by externals that can at least be limited. Stop big “outside forces” and you reduce the temptations. Chicken or egg? Hardly. Money corrupts: power corrupts. Lack of both give us YouT. :)

geekst May 24, 2010 at 6:08 pm

@freeinallthings

“laissez-faire works only for the rich since they buy what government there is”

isn’t this a problem of corrupt government rather than laissez-faire?

StevoDesign May 24, 2010 at 6:44 pm

Ah. Thanks for all that. It seems we don’t disagree completely after all.

Heh.

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 6:48 pm

Start a rel third party. The Tea party is a Fox network joke. Palin speaks tonight. Ask the tax reducers how they feel about someone who dumped a huge tax on the oil companies that led to those bonuses for Alaskan residents. I liked the tax, but it’s blatant lying to call her a conservative if she’s a taxing junkie. And someone explain tea bagging to them. It’s hard to take them seriously.

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 7:21 pm

4) End the insurance co. anti-trust exemption. Split them up the way AT&T was split up. That ends our largest welfare for the rich scheme 5) require bailout money be paid back 6) Cut taxes by eliminating all exemptions and establishing a straight 10% tax for everyone on EVERYTHING, bonuses, wages, welfare, unemployment, gifts, EVERYTHING. You can then cut your IRS staff in half. 7) Eliminate inheritance taxes entirely. They got taxed while the person was alive. (cont)

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 7:51 pm

Solution 1: enforce existing laws to protect SMALL businesses. Portect copyrights and patents here, The guy who created the weedeater is now out of business since everyone just hs to change a gasket and create their own. 2) Universal health care. That would enable small companies to start with less capital and enable established ones to keep employees who have been hurt instead of having to fire them to make the insurance co. happy. 3) End torts. Fair is fair. Limit one, limit the other.

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 8:42 pm

So if I don’t think cutting regulations is a good thing it’s because i paid attention the last eight years to what that did to us. Want more? the SBA finacned small business loans to start ups during the Bush Admin. Haliburton started small companies as offshoots and got a batch of the loans. That’s US NEWS and World Report conservative report. The bros who own the Indian oil rights got the escaltor clause left off on some contracts. Indians and gov lost millions.

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 8:59 pm

So. when the massive house of cards came down, the IC’s “leveraged” their owned congress and Presidency to cover the losses and all you hear about is the banks being evil. By this time, it include Dems and Repubs. The fact that the Republican appointees didn’t do their job because they looked at it as a non-job, was what cost us all so much. After all we elected a guy who thought we should butt out of big business’ business and we got what we elected (I should say what the minority elected.)

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 9:54 pm

This they do while the SEC ignores every sign of mismanagement and certain laws that forbid the use of derivative structures under Insurance companies. The offshoot company is not really an insurance co. Just wholly owned by one. Republican officials then proceed to ignore laws requiring there be at least 10% of the value of assets in a bank before they lend out that much. Banks under at least partial IC ownership . They ended up with less than 5% to cover losses. (cont)

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 10:45 pm

And the business acts as the collector for the Insurance co. The Insurance co. buys and anti trust exemption, buys into all the financial institutions. The boards of directors arrange massive bonuses for “performance.” related to Real Estate sales. They then create seperate derivative companies and sell the idea that real estate schemes of lending over 125% value are “covered” by the derivative companies. They hire the best “experts” to say so. (Cont)

freeinallthings May 24, 2010 at 11:24 pm

The problem is not that the government is too big. The probelm is that it’s too BOUGHT. We had Ron’s version of business for 8 years, laissez-faire works only for the rich since they buy what government there is. My bosses largest bill isn’t taxes, it’s INSURANCE. Mandated Comp, in a system degsigned to enrich the lawyers and the insurance company by keeping both out of court. Mandated health coverages, whioch the worker has to pay up to $100 per week for. (cont)

StevoDesign May 24, 2010 at 11:46 pm

I think you’re missing the point. The National level of government has a very specific list of things that they should do. They are constrained to this list. Everything else imaginable is for state, city, county, etc governments to determine. That’s the idea, anyway. Now everything is a “national” matter because people love to read certain clauses of the Constitution vaguely…

freeinallthings May 25, 2010 at 12:41 am

As well as the notion that there aren’t any. European taxes are ten per cent higher on average than American, they provide vastly better services and with less rules. We need to rid ourselves of the deificit, rid ourselves of idiots who think only in terms of left or right wing solutions instead of simply solutions and get on with our lives. The brains of the bird are not in the left or the right wing, but in the middle.

freeinallthings May 25, 2010 at 12:53 am

I agree the problem with the cut taxes crownd is laying on the back roads of my city, inches of snow that NEVER got plowed because there was no money and police out of work because of no funds. What gets cut isn’t THE WASTE, because too many governmental vultures feed off it. What gets cut are goods and services to the middle class. Required designation of tax funds to essentials, THEN cuts makes sense. But you need to define essentials as well…The cry for simple answers is fraud as well.

LennonLives4Ever May 25, 2010 at 1:37 am

Last summer my camp counselor broke his nose when he hit the ground playing basketball. On a counselor’s wage you really cant afford health insurance and because of something as simple as tripping he basically had to give up his whole summer’s salary to pay the hospital bill. Is it fair? not at all. Nobody is pushing for speeding ticket insurance but people need health insurance as badly as you need home owners insurance.

sakurasanmon May 25, 2010 at 1:47 am

If you have health insurance, then shut your mouth. Unless you pay every cent of every doctor’s visit that you make, you have no right to say that somebody who has no insurance should behave differently.

smiledammit24 May 25, 2010 at 2:24 am

He probably voted no because most of that money is going to go nowhere. Almost every single time we give relief services to a country their corrupt government finds some way to exploit it.

assgrabberb May 25, 2010 at 2:45 am

Ron Paul is about as far away from a nutjob as you’re gonna find.
There’s private charities that are set up and do a better job than governments can do.
All he’s ever done was vote against thousands of wasteful and misguided, possibly well intentioned boondoggles.

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